UnMeta:Relationship with Wikia

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Uncyclopedia's largely-dysfunctional relationship with Wikia ended in May 2019, with the remaining UncycloWikia wikis closed or moved to other hosts. See Forum:Reorganization of the whole Uncycs.

Make sure you ask things in the right place. There are some with which we simply cannot help you.


There were primarily three four groups of Uncyclopedias: Those hosted by Uncyclomedia.org, those hosted by uncyclopedia.co, those hosted by Miraheze and those are hosted somewhere else. Before Wikia rebranded to FANDOM and threw the Uncyclopedians under the bus in 2019, they hosted multiple Uncyclopedia-related wikis with various licencing problems. In some cases, there were duplicate (or "forked") versions of the same project, with different users on different hosts. English and Russian are prime examples; a second version was created when for-profit wiki farm Wikia/FANDOM censored content and refused to close projects when disgruntled users went elsewhere, leaving two different projects in the same language forked from the same content with different author communities on different hosts. Some of those splits endured after Wikia cut ties in 2019 and are now permanent, even though both competing versions are now hosted elsewhere. That has caused irreparable damage to the project as a whole. Thanks, Wikia!

The problem here was that Wikia's practices can be pretty alienating at times (and downright low at others), while many non-Wikia Uncyclomedians can also be pretty abrasive and unrelenting. Something about hard feelings, or something. These hard feelings often only expound when the folks collide; basically the 'relationship' is not pretty, though dancing on the edge of a sword it can still work. Because you know what the really funny thing is? If everyone could just be nicer and get along, we wouldn't have nearly so many problems as we do between the folks. Still a few. But less. Be mostly technical stuff and a lack of best practices at that point.

Technical stuff[edit]

Wikia[edit]

No longer associated with Uncyclopedia, after years of ongoing problems with them censoring content, operating projects in direct competition with communities which had moved elsewhere and creating projects under incompatible free licences.

Most of the first batch of languages (French, Spanish, Italian) were created in 2006 and originally hosted here; the next batch (Taiwan, Brazil, Japan) are on uncyclomedia.org (see below). This is a for-profit company whose goals do not always coincide with those of the Uncyclopedia project. Wikia has rebranded to Fandom and severed ties; almost all of the affected wikis (as of March 2019) were being moved to other hosts.

Basically Uncyclomedia had no say on Wikia. If yours was a Wikia-wiki and needs something technical done, use the contact form from your wiki and try to have as much 'community support' as you can so you can look intimidating or something, and politely make your request. Their support folks are usually pretty pleasant if you don't irritate them.

The following required staff:

  • Checkuser
  • Interwikis
  • Namespaces
  • Bugs
  • Nuke (mass deletion of pages added by one user)
  • Other things the person writing this can't think of

Staff would usually get back to you within a day or two. Whether or not they would actually do anything useful is another story entirely. Furthermore, Wikia/FANDOM is in the business of taking other people's content and defacing it with intrusive paid display advertising. That's a problem, as many Uncyclopedias (English, Português, Japanese...) are under a non-commercial licence; do *not* repost that content (or any derivative work) to Wikia as (if you are not the sole and original author) this is copyright infringement and most likely illegal.

Uncyclomedia.org[edit]

The wikis here are mostly self-contained. Installed extensions give admins access to interwikis, checkuser, etc without having to bother anyone else about it. Some things that do need sysadmin help (in other words, carlb) include:

  • New extensions
  • Updates
  • Bugs
  • Other things the person writing this can't think of

These include Desciclopédia (Brazil), Ansaikuropedia (Japan), Uncyclopedia (Taiwan) and basically anything in *.uncyclopedia.info or *.illogicopedia.com

Carlb (email: carlb at kingston net, sms: +16135498196) will usually oblige most requests, but may take upwards of a few months to do so.

Uncyclopedia.co[edit]

This server was placed online in 2013 to host a fork of the English-language Uncyclopedia; additional projects or languages which are moving (or have moved there) include:

  • en.uncyclopedia.co (along with the associated meta/commons/en.illogicopedia.org wikis)
  • anything in *.uncyclopedia.co or *.uncyclomedia.co
  • illogicopedia.org (en: only)
  • Inciclopedia (Spanish) and Necyclopedie (Czech)
  • Désencyclopédie (French - français)
  • Eincyclopedia (Hebrew: איןציקלופדיה, Yiddish:קיינציקלאפעדיע)

Contact User:Lyrithya on en.uncyclopedia.co for these.

Miraheze[edit]

A very small, low-budget wiki farm which hosts about 4000 wikis, mostly unrelated; a few individual Uncyclopedia languages (such as Italian) are hosted there:

  • anything in *.miraheze.org
  • uncyclopedia.miraheze.org (Simplified Chinese)
  • nonciclopedia.org (Italian)
  • Beidipedia (Arabic)

There is a bug tracker (phabricator) and a group of volunteer sysadmins; see meta.miraheze.org for details.

Other[edit]

Varies.

The following are independently hosted, so their owners will need to be contacted directly:

  • absurdopedia.net (Russian)
  • absurdopedia.wiki (Russian-Olbanian)
  • nonsa.pl (Polish)
  • uncyclopedia.com (we speech good English, en-gb)
  • Stupidedia/Kamelopedia (German) are independent of Uncyclopedia, although they may interlanguage-link to us

See also[edit]