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Uncyclomedia's goal is the spread and promotion of finely-honed idiocy throughout the free world. If you want to propose a new language under the umbrella of the Uncyclomedia Foundation which is in line with this goal, you can:

• If you are willing to take the blame for it, post it here.
• Otherwise, post it on the discussion page.

If you want to propose a new project for an existing language, please do so on proposals for new projects.

Contents 1 Instructions 1.1 Basic Information 1.2 Domain names 2 Existing languages 3 Be ashamed 4 Requests with Main Pages demos 4.1 Burma Shave 4.2 L33t 4.3 Neopolitan 4.4 Venetian 4.5 Vietnam 4.6 Xhosa 5 Significant support 5.1 Singlish 5.2 Mirandese 5.3 Romani 6 New requests 6.1 Newspeak (Minitrue work uneasywise) 6.2 Vipper 6.3 Artificial 6.4 Ido language

[edit] Instructions

Read this as well as the before proposing a new language.

• Create an account and a user page on this wiki, so people can address their questions to you.
• It is recommended that you advertise the project:
  • on Runnings-on.
  • on the Foundation-l mailing-list to announce your proposal, since UnMeta-Wiki is a low-traffic site.

[edit] Basic Information

• Project name.
• Language, messages & mainpage name If this is a MediaWiki project in a relatively-common natural language, odds are that the language files are already provided, either as part of MediaWiki itself or (if that fails) as part of existing open-content wikis in the same language. If not, the user interface for any software used (a list of translated messages like Special:Allmessages) will need translation before the new project can be created.
• ISO 639 language codes are here and match those of other MediaWiki sites. If multiple codelengths exist, the two-letter version is most often preferred.
• Existing content. It's possible to create a new, empty project but often not advisable - especially if the target is specialised in nature. It's best to start with some level of "seed" content, otherwise prospective visitors will see an empty database and leave instead of seeing an active project and contributing. Empty wikis therefore often stay empty. In some cases, you may want to split an existing namespace or language from an existing wiki (an individual Babel: language, for instance) and allocate it an independent project - this can be done by using XML to export the full page history in a form that can be easily imported into your new project.
• Software and license. Unless otherwise indicated, software is MediaWiki and license is CC-BY-NC-SA (as this combination is compatible with Uncyclopedia, Ikkepedia and the like). If there are specific applications or extensions which will be needed to start your project, say so.

[edit] Domain names

In general, there are four categories of domain names:

• Names (or subdomains of existing names) which you have registered yourself. You own them outright. Just update your domain name server settings and they should be usable directly.
• Names which are already registered and controlled by persons participating in this project. There are a few (such as [whatever].pedia.ws, [xx].uncyclopedia.info, [xx].uncyc.org) which are already available for our use as a source of subdomains as needed.
• Names which are registered to outsiders, such as .unnews.org or .wikia.com - they're not ours to add to or modify so, unless whomever owns unnews.org wants to host (or provide DNS to) your project, no point in proposing [whatever].unnews.org here.
• Names which are currently not registered to anyone. Fair game, but you may want to avoid posting your proposed domain name to any public forums until you've registered it. There is always a risk that anyone reading this may register it themselves.

[edit] Existing languages

Before creating a language or new project, look up your language or project on:

• this page
• or Uncyclopedia.info

If you want to start a project which has nothing to do with a new language, put the request on this page.

[edit] Be ashamed

Any criticism your proposal gets is aimed at you. Next time think longer, and harder about your ideas before submitting them to us. Although we will probably still insult them anyway. Why? Because it's policy. Why is it policy? Because we said so.

[edit] Requests with Main Pages demos

• Project name.

Urgîn/Argalish. A new language.

• Language.

Urgîn/Argalish. I don't think men on the earth would know what it is. This is an ancient language that it even forgot itself.

• Existing content.

The first page is to state what Argalish is; a å b c d ǽ e f g h i î j k l ll m n o p q r rr s t u v w x y z are the letters used in Argalish.

• Software and license. Unless otherwise indicated, software is MediaWiki and license is CC-BY-NC-SA (as this combination is compatible with Uncyclopedia, Ikkepedia and the like). If there are specific applications or extensions which will be needed to start your project, say so.

A proposal must have +2 score to have significant support. IP votes count as half a vote.

[edit] Burma Shave

See Forum:Babel uncyclopedia Burmese Get help quick! - likely not ready as appears to only have one page en:Babel:My/ဗဟိုစာမျက်နှာ and no project name, no content. (en:Babel:Xh is just as dead)

[edit] L33t

3y3 7|-|1/\/|< \/\/3 5|-|0|_|!|) 4|)) 1337 2 0|_||2 |_1/\/3|_||>.71.135.51.101 00:47, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

{class |- | Local message list: Done by MediaWik |Project name: |_|/\/(3y3(!0|>3|)14 |Proposed domain: leet.uncyclopedia.org |- | Relevant infos: }

Main page exists at en:Babel:1337. Is this a language or just a substitution code? --66.102.80.212 22:19, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Neopolitan

Babel:Nap, Unciclopedìa d' 'a lengua napulitana - Paggena prencepale with no subpages.

[edit] Venetian

łéngoa vèneta mainpage exists at Babel:Venetian with currently no subpages.

[edit] Vietnam

They defeated the United States but Babel:Vi is currently a mainpage with no subpages, no users.

[edit] Xhosa

en:Babel:Xh, currently no ngesiXhosa content.

[edit] Significant support

(...move proposed languages here once they have +2 support or when the proposed wiki is created...)

[edit] Singlish

People interested [if native speaker, please mark (N)]: Anti.Exams(N) Proposer's user account in UnMeta and other wikis: UnMeta, Uncyclopedia, Wikia, Wikipedia User accounts of others who are willing to work on the proposed wiki: None, yet.

Project name: Singlish Uncylopedia

ISO 639 language code: en-sg

Proposed domain:sg.uncyclopedia.org

Main Page name:Main Page

Local message list:

Relevant infos: Link to article(s) on the language in an existing Uncyclopedia: [1], [2], [3] Native name: Singlish Approximate number of speakers: approx. 4 million Locations spoken: Singapore, Malaysia Closely related languages, if any: English, Manglish Language Family / Sub-Family: English External links to organizations that promote the language: [4], [5], [6]

Link to request on a mailing list: None, yet.

I'm quite sure lots of Singaporeans would love to be able to use Singlish freely officially. Can check out the number of Singaporean Wiki users to see the number of potential contributors. Anti.Exams 21:36, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

• For -Kohl 06:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
• For Rhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 264 preppiedits 14:58, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
• Conditional for Should we contact this user first? If the project is created and the user doesn't show up, the project is created for nothing | CartoonistHenning 20:57, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Mirandese

People interested [if native speaker, please mark (N)]: Rhubella Marie Proposer's user account in UnMeta and other wikis: Rhubella Marie User accounts of others who are willing to work on the proposed wiki:

Project name: Çciclopédia

ISO 639 language code: mwl:

Proposed domain: çciclopedia.org http://çciclopedia.org

Main Page name: Páigina Percipal - Çciclopédia

External links to sites that promote the language: Ethnologue > Country > Europe > Portugal > Mirandese

Relevant infos: Link to article(s) on the language in an existing Uncyclopedia: Native name: Mirandés Approximate number of speakers: 15,000 Locations spoken: Portugal Closely related languages, if any: Language Family / Sub-Family: Romance Language Family External links to organizations that promote the language: http://mwl.wikipedia.org

• FOR - There are a little speakers, but if there is a Wikipedia in that language, why not? CartoonistHenning 23:11, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Mirandese is one of the Asturian dialect, spoken by 15,000 people in Miranda do Douro and in villages nearby regions. It has status of official language in these region of Portugal. Unfortunately I do not have in my Google translator option for that language, but get a dictionary and a grammar copied from a website. Rhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 264 preppiedits 00:25, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

• FOR - I help Rhubella at the Desgalipedia, and i bet that this project will be the same good at the hands of Rhubella. KING.M.D./Discussão 16:54, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

I have good news, I got a translator Portuguese - Mirandese the market price. You can now do translations and improve Çciclopédia.

In Mirandese Tengo buonas nuobas, cunsegui un tradutor Pertués - Mirandés la précio de mercado. Agora será possible fazer traduçones i melhorar la Çciclopédia. Rhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 264 preppiedits 23:01, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

• Support --Helder Oliveira 00:38, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

• FOR Rhubella knows, what she wants. --Rosto 14:49, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Rhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 264 preppiedits 01:13, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Romani

People interested [if native speaker, please mark (N)]: ro:User:Erwin (3) Proposer's user account in UnMeta and other wikis: User:Erwin User accounts of others who are willing to work on the proposed wiki:

Project name: Uichipidia

ISO 639 language code: rmy:

Proposed domain: http://uichipidia.org

Main Page name: Sherutni patrin - शेरुत्नि पात्रीन

Local message list:

Relevant infos: Link to article(s) on the language in an existing Uncyclopedia: *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani language EnWP Native name: Romani Approximate number of speakers: 2,5 million Locations spoken: Closely related languages, if any: Language Family / Sub-Family: External links to organizations that promote the language: Romani Wikipedia(Vikipidiya)

Link to request on a mailing list:

Thanks. --Erwin 18:27, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

• FOR: I love the idea, already sought information about the language. Please do not confuse you Romanian by Romany. Rhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 264 preppiedits 22:51, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I know, I speake romani language fluently. Erwin 09:11, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

• FOR: Good idea. Maybe illegal romani people will stop stealing and harrassing in other countries by contributing on this wiki ;) CartoonistHenning 21:05, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

1. 1. Not all do. I admit, there are many who beg here in Germany and eating from garbage because they are poor. But there are many who have a personality that not everyone has. --Erwin 11:18, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

[edit] New requests

If you are thinking about making a new proposal, please make sure that the same language has been previously proposed. If not, try again later.

[edit] Newspeak (Minitrue work uneasywise)

People interested [if native speaker, please mark (N)]: BB(N) Proposer's user account in UnMeta and other wikis: youngkim User accounts of others who are willing to work on the proposed wiki: Young Kim, Jacques Pirat (unand BB help)

Project name: Doubleplusuntruecollectfulbooks

Language code: nws:

Proposed domain: http://nws.uncyc.org/$1

Main Page name: centerfulpaper

Local message list: (missing - only limited fragments of the Newspeak dictionary exist, and then only as part of Eric Blair's novel 1984: doubleplusungood)

Relevant infos: Link to article(s) on the language in an existing Uncyclopedia: Newspeak Ingsoc, Crimethink, Brotherhood, Babel:Newspeak Native name: Newspeak Approximate number of speakers: 30,000,798 Locations spoken: Oceania (americas, unnorthfulafrica, australia) Closely related languages, if any: Oldspeak, English Language Family / Sub-Family: Germanic/ Neo-West Germanic External links to organizations that promote the language: http://forums.newspeakdictionary.com/

Link to request on a mailing list: none as of yet

• Unwithful, too close to English. Smiddle 15:22, 1 June 2007 (UTC) Note: Unagreeful unwrd bc agree unwrd. Unwithful wrd. Use unwithful (Disclaimer: unagreeful is not a Newspeak word since "agree" does not exist in Newspeak. Instead, you have to say unwithful)

• Meh... Smiddle 15:06, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

• Use of "unagreeful" proves that Smiddle is not fluent speaker of Newspeak. (simple English: See? You can't speak Newspeak)
• Comrade ref "Newspeak" and und Newspeak doubleplusunoldspeakfulwise. It unoldspeakfuler bc minitrue wrk uneasywise rectify wrds. Newspeak in fourtenful edition. comrade und meful wrds? - Und allwise: BB watch yu (Comrade, if you read "Newspeak" article then you will find out that Newspeak is truly unique and is not similar to English in any regards. Also, It is becoming more unique as Minitrue is working hard eliminating and modifying words. Currently, Newspeak is in its fourteenth edition. Do you understand what I'm sayin'?? - remember: Big Brother is watching you.)
• Know: Miniluv luv Smiddle Miniluv remake Smiddle fullwise. Smiddle vaporized fullwise. Smiddle doubleplusunperson Smiddle? Who?
• Newspeak unoldspeakwise Smiddle

• Don't you think speakers of Newspeak would be able to understand Modern English? Smiddle 07:45, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
• Unlightful (negative)
• bc we doubleplusreq speak (Because we gotta speak something)

• Und plentful paper in doubleplusuntruecollectfulbooks nowwise. Four or fiv newspeakfulpaper in doubleplusuntruecollectfulbooks. Newspeak is. Newspeak doubleplusunoldspeakwise. (You should realize that there are lots of articles in Newspeak already present in Uncyclopedia (under the name of English.) If I am correct, there are at least four or five articles. Therefore Newspeak does exist, and is not close to English at all.

• Try to fill in all of the above with relevant facts and we'll talk. I don't think "BB watch you" means "main page" in Newspeak. Smiddle 16:07, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

• Conditional for. If there are ten articles in newspeak in the newspeak category in Uncyclopedia. --Jacques Pirat 23:06, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
• For --Nipkov 19:13, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
• Conditional for. Same as Jacques Pirat. -Kohl 06:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
• Against. It doesn't make any sense. There allready is Simple English and Illogicopedia, I think it's enough with these wikis ;) CartoonistHenning 19:21, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Vipper

People interested [if native speaker, please mark (N)]: Horaizon Naito(N) Proposer's user account in UnMeta and other wikis: None as of yet User accounts of others who are willing to work on the proposed wiki: None as of yet

Project name: UncycloVippedia

Language code: vip:

Proposed domain: vip.uncyclopedia.org

Main Page name: メインｗｗｗ

Local message list: (do not currently exist - would be needed)

Relevant infos: Link to article(s) on the language in an existing Uncyclopedia: Uncyclopedia:ja:VIP Native name: VIPPER語 Approximate number of speakers: 400,000 Locations spoken: 2ch News4VIP-BBS, Japan Closely related languages, if any: Japanese, 2ch'er's language Language Family / Sub-Family: Japanese / 2ch'er's language External links to organizations that promote the language: [7].

Link to request on a mailing list: None as of yet

[edit] Artificial

People interested [if native speaker, please mark (N)]: Rosto - ArkBlitz Proposer's user account in UnMeta and other wikis: User accounts of others who are willing to work on the proposed wiki:

Project name: Mokopedia

ISO 639 language code: Too many to list art

Proposed domain: http://mokopedia.org

Main Page name: Principal pajina (uh, what language is that?)

Local message list: To be decided

Relevant infos: Link to article(s) on the language in an existing Uncyclopedia: Artificial, see also Esperanto (in English), Ido (in Spanish), and next to nothing else Native name: Artificial Approximate number of speakers: Who knows? Locations spoken: Internet, real world Closely related languages, if any: Esperanto, Ido, Occidental, Interlingua, Novial, Lojban, Klingon, Quenya, Na'vi, Idiom Neutral, Ithkuil, Toki Pona, Wolapük, LFN, LdP, Lv.Up, etc. Language Family / Sub-Family: Constructed External links to organizations that promote the language: [8]

Link to request on a mailing list:

Any constructed language would be applicable in Mokopedia.

My proposals:

• The Esperantist Neciklopedio (and perhaps the Latin Uncapædia) should be nicely and carefully forced to join us. (I just made up the Ido Neciklopedio, but it's empty, I should erase it then)
• Uncyclopedia (English) uses CC-BY-NC-SA, while others like Inciclopedia (Spanish) use CC-BY-SA. How come if we use CC-BY and make some kind of agreement with the rest of Pedias? We let them translate our articles with their license, and in exchange we translate their articles with either their license or ours.

Any other ideas? -ArkBlitz 20:17, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Neutral I do not know that language, for now I'll stay neutral as Switzerland. If you indicate me a Wikipedia page which contains this language I can reconsider my vote. Rhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 264 preppiedits 13:30, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

In wikipedia there are seven wikipedias in artificial languages: in Esperanto, 126,211 articles http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/ , in Volapük, 118,792 articles http://vo.wikipedia.org/wiki/ , in Ido, 18,760 articles http://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/ , in Interlingua, 5,176 articles http://ia.wikipedia.org/wiki/ , in Novial, 2,568 articles http://nov.wikipedia.org/wiki/ , in Interlingue (Occidental), 1,509 articles http://ie.wikipedia.org/wiki/ , in Lojban 1,090 articles http://jbo.wikipedia.org/wiki/ . Mokopedia in artificial languages would be all in one, and much more. Adepts of different conlangs adore mocking one another. And if a conlanger learn, that such a thing in all conlangs exists, shure he will make his conlang presented there. Such a thing is not possible in the serious Wikipedia, becouse the project self, Mokopedia, is not serious at all. --Rosto 06:55, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

• Unworkable Sorry, so far as I understand is this a name for a group of languages. Factually, there has to be 1 ISO-code and 1 language which would suppose to support the MediaWiki. A wiki, a language | CartoonistHenning 10:49, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

About 1 ISO-code see "ISO, SIL, and BCP language codes for constructed languages" in Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO,_SIL,_and_BCP_language_codes_for_constructed_languages . There is: "ISO 639-2 also has the code art for other artificial languages." Unworkable? See my blog in "Ipernity", http://www.ipernity.com/blog/79634 , it is in 4 artificial languages: Ido, Occidental, Idiom Neutral and my own Medial, see comments, they are often in different conlangs. See there blogs of Angelic Cante, Jose, Bebson Hochfeld, Valdi (Elbik), (in my network there). 6 languages in total is used there (+Esperanto and English). See Posta Mundi http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi , Bablo http://groups.google.com/group/bablo . --Rosto 12:50, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Right, but then you have to choose one of these artificial languages (vo, io, ia, nov...). Nobody can create wikis with all in one | CartoonistHenning 14:57, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

OK I agree with your point of view but in our page is not yet the extension art: Rhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 264 preppiedits 15:31, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Conditional for: I will vote for if for each artificial language quoted in order that the Uncys in Esperanto and Klingon were created. And as a final note, do not revert my edit. I have filed motions in this old page here. Rhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 264 preppiedits 21:26, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

@Rhubella, you do have some reason. Mixing so many languages in one 'pedia will be troublesome. Like, which will be the main language? A solution would be to make 'pedias in many languages, like one for Ido, another one for Volapük, other one for Occidental, and so on. So, which one will go first? I'd vote for Ido (it's quite used in the auxlang forums I use to visit). -ArkBlitz 22:31, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

I see that we are entering an agreement. Well you should choose and change your application is exactly what we are trying to explain. Choose a language and then I support. Rhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 264 preppiedits 22:44, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Better let this request be rejected. I don't want to choose a language, it is not interesting for me. --Rosto 17:07, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Wait till User:Carlb says something about this. maybe there's another solution ;) CartoonistHenning 19:32, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Gentlemen, I'm sysop on 4 uncys and it does not hinder my work. There is an artificial Wikipedia, but several languages. Is my proposal is good for involved. Rhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 264 preppiedits 23:32, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Rhubella, if you will request some conlang, I vote "for". Now I began writing the article Artificial in English. I need some time for continuing. After that maybe I will create a demo of Main Page for Artificial. --Rosto 15:06, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I mean, my proposal is to create an artificial uncy at a time. One for Ido, one for Occidental, one for Volapük, and etc. In this case, we are common Arcord that this application should be rejected and start all over again. So, I will redo the proposal for Ido and Occidental separately and when they are approved, do the rest. In this case, I explain how I am Desgalipedia bureaucrat and sysop of 4 other uncys, I can assure the proper functioning. OK? Rhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 264 preppiedits 22:41, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Ido language

People interested [if native speaker, please mark (N)]: ArkBlitz Proposer's user account in UnMeta and other wikis: ArkBlitz' page in Spanish Inciclopedia User accounts of others who are willing to work on the proposed wiki:

Project name: Neciklopedio (Ido/Esperanto for "Uncyclopedia")

Language code: ido (handy, isn't it?) io:

Proposed domain: io.neciklopedio.org (already reserved by ArkBlitz)

Main Page name: Frontispico

Relevant infos: Link to article(s) on the language in an existing Uncyclopedia: I Do (they had no idea on what they were doing); Idioma Ido (in Spanish, but with more history) Native name: Ido Approximate number of speakers: Honestly? Counting the forums where it's used, around 50. Locations spoken: La Inter-reto (The Internet, in Ido) Closely related languages, if any: Esperanto (Ido is based on it) Language Family / Sub-Family: Esperantido External links to organizations that promote the language: Posta Mundi (many artificial languages spoken, but mostly Ido); Linguo Ido (in Ning), a social net completely in Ido; Uniono por la Linguo Internaciona Ido (ULI), in English "Union for the International Language Ido", the maintainer of the language

Link to request on a mailing list: Here. If you can't understand the mixture of artificial languages, it says we should make Uncyclopedias in more artificial languages (besides Esperanto, which already has one). First we commented on making an Uncyclopedia in all artificial languages, but later agreed on making one at a time.

• Conditional for Please no Wikia. Ask for a non-profit .org domain. CartoonistHenning 20:47, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Is there a way to do it for free? I have a PayPal but less than $5 in my account, so... -ArkBlitz 18:11, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
• For Rhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 264 preppiedits 00:11, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but we are not Wikia. Rhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 264 preppiedits 20:56, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

It is free to ask it here. It's too late now... CartoonistHenning 18:54, 19 March 2010 (UTC)