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Update: Due to server problems, the current deadline has been suspended. The forum is now reopened for discussion.

Hi everyone. I want to discuss about a possible new Uncyclomedia administrator, a representative of Desciclopédia, because Kohl (I won't touch his user rights!) is a little bit too inactive. I know that Desciclopédia's relationships with some of you are very heeted, so I absolutely want you to discuss about someone who won't set up conflicts immediately.

Okay, why do I absolutely want to have a DP representative?

  • Because it's the largest uncyc of UnMeta
  • Because I want that DP's involvement on UnMeta won't get lost
  • Because we need someone for DP's embassy
  • Because I want that DP's involvement on UnMeta won't get lost

How do we work?

  • Just pick some people from pt:Special:Listusers/sysop, of whom you think he/she will be a good representative here.
  • Discuss about them.
  • If we have an agreement, we can post our favourites on the Boteco of DP, so the communtiy there can vote for the final candidat.

My two favourites: User:Franklin Kerber and User:Tyler Durden (already representing DP on Commons)

Also like to discuss about adminship of User:Cthulhu.fhtagn, User:Mgs (active here) and User:Vox (for building an embassy).

I would like to end this discussion before July, 15 (15/07/2011) and want this to end in peace (!).

Ow, yes... After this, I will demand the DP's community to think well enough about the candidats. When this new sysop will make troubles here, he will be desysoped directly. So you don't have to fear | CartoonistHenning (talk) 11:28, 1 July 2011 (UTC)


I do not oppose the idea, though Tyler Durden is a little inactive in Desciclopedia due to particular projects. Because of this he does not walk often in editing UnCommons. Another point is that the community should have been aa couple of this as we discuss this subject. And Kohl's also the situation is getting complicated, because it is involved in projects of their own and do not even know if he will return here one day. But I will not discuss this subject that is not part of this forum.

Of the other three chosen, Cthulhu, has unfortunately been involved in conflicts with the administration of Crapédia. What makes me think about that appointment. As for MGS, I see no problem and as for Vox from ukranian uncy, I think that was the best option because it is a neutral, outside the realm of relationships-users Desciclopédia-Wikinet-Desgalipedia.

PS:Another thing is that if there is a vote here on the unmet anyone, I will be neutral and will not vote.

Rhubella beach.jpgRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 2080 preppieditsRhubella.jpg 15:20, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

There's no way either I or Mgs could "represent" Desciclopedia, since we both are kind of "pariahs" there (in the past year, I spent half of it under ban, and Mgs is permanently banned). I think better choices would be those "descíclopes" (desciclopedians) that are active in UnCommons. Rhubella, what is this "conflict" with Crapedia? I don't know anything about it, is it something that leaked thru you in MSN? Cthulhu.fhtagn (talk) 15:57, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Let me suggest a few names, users that are active in UnCommons and don't seem to be involved in conflicts in Desciclopédia:
  • Damasceno
  • Masusami
  • Siphodemos, o Filósofo
  • UltraJohnny
Probably there are other users much better qualified than that troublemaker Cthulhu and Mgs :-) Cthulhu.fhtagn (talk) 16:10, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Cthulhu.fhtagn, you understood it wrong. I just said you will be a good candidate to be admin here, not for representing DP ;-) Just for UnMeta's sake. I can think about Mgs too. UltraJohnny desysoped himself because não estou podendo vir frequentemente. The person should be an admin on DP, so we can exclude Masusami (sorry, Masusami!).
So then we have left:
  • Damasceno / Siphodemos, o Filósofo / Franklin Kerber (DP)
    • Mgs (WikiNet)+ Cthulhu (Malucopedia) + Vox (Neciklopedia)
Perhaps we should ask Damasceno and the filosopher whether they are interested or not. Other suggestions? CartoonistHenning (talk) 18:32, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

"Mgs (WikiNet)+ Cthulhu (Malucopedia)" - CartoonistHenning said what I would to say, Cthulhu.fhtagn. Also, I think that a good sysop from Desciclopédia that can be sysop here is Samurai Bruxo. He don't "hate" any of we... And has no conflicts with other users (sorry for the bad English). Mgs 20:02, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Cthulhu, to answer your question, I'm referring to his insistence on his project Radu. We've had this kind of friction in the past and I believe that we can not repeat this kind of thing here in UnMeta. And really Samurai or Dark has been a sysop on two excellent projects that addressed Rhubella beach.jpgRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 2080 preppieditsRhubella.jpg 23:09, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Ok, I accept the indication as Malucopédia's representative; since Helder is absent, Rhubella is the representative of Desgalipédia and RadU is six months younger at Malucopédia than me, I guess there's no other option. Cthulhu.fhtagn (talk) 01:44, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
  • One word: Truewww. KNUT 19:23, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

My favorite names are Franklin Kerber and KNUT. They are by far the more experienced and complete users of Desciclopédia. I only need to know their interest.

Alhazred (talk) 21:04, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Alz, I respect your opinion, however, declare against the nomination of Canuto for obvious reasons. Although a vote on uncyclo can be done internally.
Cthulhu, in my opinion, Radu hardly may be representative of Uncyclopedia if he accepts my invitation to change Crapédia server, joining the Unmeta.
In these terms the user can also indicate the user:Renan from klingon Uncyclopedia, I believe you do not have problems with users of said uncy, sysop and is active in at least three projects here. Rhubella beach.jpgRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 2080 preppieditsRhubella.jpg 21:23, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
  • In portuguese: Não tenha medo, Renard. Como eu já declarei no tópico que abri no Boteco, em respeito ao que se propõe, não pretendo ser sysop aqui. E não tenho nada contra as candidaturas do Mgs e Cthulhu, mas caso você se candidate, eu terei de ser contra também, por motivos igualmente óbvios. KNUT 21:55, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Eu não vejo nenhuma razão óbvia para ser contra uma indicação do maior contribuidor da Desciclopédia. Eu pensei que o objetivo disso aqui Renard, era trazer o maior envolvimento da Desciclopédia com a UnMeta. Ah é, eu esqueci o envolvimento entre Desciclopédia e UnMeta se perdeu a partir do instante que aqui se tornou um refúgio de quem é banido na Desciclopédia.

Mas não se preocupe, o Canuto é uma pessoa de caráter, tanto que ele recusou minha oferta por entender que assim será melhor.

Alhazred (talk) 22:07, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Lamento sim por vocês dois, não estou satisfeito também com a proposta de Cartoonist. E eu também disse aqui que isso será resolvido entre vocês no boteco. A regra é para vocês escolherem 2 nomes por votação para serem sysops aqui. Eu sou contra certos nomes mas se a comunidade escolher por votação Canuto e Jonny Screamer, estou de mãos atadas. se querem mais provas lhe dou estas:
É no boteco descíclope onde se debe votar eses sysops e non aquí
Sobre a porposta de Cartoonist

Eu sei que as relações Desciclopédia com alguns de vocês são muito heted, então eu quero que vocês absolutamente discutem sobre alguém que não vai criar conflitos imediatamente.

Ok, por que eu com certeza querem ter um representante DP?

  • Porque é a maior uncyc da UnMeta
  • Porque eu quero que o envolvimento do DP sobre a UnMeta não vai se perder
  • Porque precisamos de alguém para embaixada PD
  • Porque eu quero que o envolvimento do DP sobre a UnMeta não vai se perder

Como nós trabalhamos?

  • Basta escolher algumas pessoas a partir de pt:Special:Listusers/sysop, de quem vocês acham que ele/ela será um bom representante aqui.
  • Discutir sobre eles.
  • Se temos um acordo, podemos postar nossos favoritos no Boteco da DP, de modo a COMUNIDADE possa votar a favor do candidato final.
Sobre minha avaliação

Não sou contra a idéia, embora Tyler Durden é um pouco inativo no Desciclopedia devido a projetos específicos. Devido a isso, ele não anda muitas vezes em edição UnCommons. Outro ponto é que a comunidade deveria estar a par disto como nós discutimos este assunto. E também sobre Kohl a situação está ficando complicado, porque está envolvido em projetos particulares e nem sequer sei se ele vai voltar aqui um dia. Mas eu não vou discutir este assunto que não faz parte deste fórum.

Sobre o leque de opções já estudadas

Se é para apontar defeitos vamos lá

  • Tyler Durden, inativo por compromisos particulares;
  • Damasceno, sysop recentemente
  • Masusami, já descartado por não ser sysop na DP
  • Siphodemos, o Filósofo, pouco ativo
  • UltraJohnny, retornou ao projeto e fez 4 ou 5 edições na UnCommons

Até aqui apenas ponderei sobre o caso do Tyler... o problema dos outros candidatos é que ou são sysops a recente periodo ou estão até ativos demais no UnCommons. Se perceberem até poderia ser incluido o Dragomaniaco neste rol por que ele é ativo no UnCommons.

As demais vagas são oferecidas para outras uncys ou wikis, dentre os quais só fui contra no caso do Cthulhu por ter tido problemas na Crapédia com RadU, recentemente. Ou seja, nem estou dando muita atenção aqui e empurrando a questão para vocês mesmos.

Voltando isso é nada mais do que é uma votação interna de vocês, onde não posso (por mais que quisesse) defender porposta contrária e isto é só.

Rhubella beach.jpgRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 2080 preppieditsRhubella.jpg 02:46, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

A propósito, vi que me sugeriram para ser o representante. Eu acho que há pessoas melhores que eu pra representar a Desciclopédia, pq eu quase nunca estou passando por aqui. DARK FALLEN ANGEL Lord of DarknessHAIL SATAN 02:16, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Se você não aceita, então por mim qualquer um da Desciclopédia pode ser sysop. E o Cthulhu têm que ser sysop aqui, ele é o único usuário que olha as mudanças recentes de todas as wikis que ele sabe que existe, então ele fica de olho aqui, na Malucopédia (especialmente), na Wikinet, na Desciclopédia, na Crapedia e etc. Mgs 02:30, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Não é que eu não aceite. É que se tiver (e tem, o Truewww) opções de candidatos melhores que eu, é preferível essas opções sobre mim. DARK FALLEN ANGEL Lord of DarknessHAIL SATAN 15:22, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Entendo sua preocupação, Samurai. Também fica complicado essa situação de wikipedistas que fizeram richas com você vandalizarem outros projetos por causa das políticas na Wikinet. Rhubella beach.jpgRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 2080 preppieditsRhubella.jpg 15:45, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

As some of you might alrealdy know, it was opened a discussion at Desciclopédia about this subject, and I've received, at least for now, approval of all the users that manifested in the discussion.

And as I just said there, I do accept being Desciclopédia ambasalour, the so called representative.

Truewww (talk) 15:53, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Truewww eu não vou ser chata mas bem explicita como Cartoonist foi bem claro na primeira linha deste forum...
Administrador... ah! Desculpe-me, é que eu pensei ledo embaixador!!!

I want to discuss about a possible new Uncyclomedia administrator, a representative of Desciclopédia...

Rhubella beach.jpgRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 2080 preppieditsRhubella.jpg 15:59, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

I know, I've read the entire page, and no need to use deprecated html tags to yell anything. But as far as I am concerned the ambassador of Desciclopédia is not editing even on Desciclopédia. now for personal problem, he even lose his sysop for inactivity there, and Desciclopédia need as well, I just wasn't clear enought. But anyway, I mean to be representative, leaving the discussion about ambassador for another time.

Truewww (talk) 16:14, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Well, as Kohl is not the main issue here, but the representation of the wiki here. So I see you agree it is critical to closing the discussion, at least the two vacancies for the DP. Rhubella beach.jpgRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 2080 preppieditsRhubella.jpg 16:56, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Day after

I would like to propose a new term due to external problems, a week after the deadline, that is, until the 22th for the community to choose their nominees for the posts sysop. In my view, only one person has accepted the position. Rhubella beach.jpgRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 2080 preppieditsRhubella.jpg 00:23, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay, we put the term on July 20 | CartoonistHenning (talk) 12:19, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
D'accord Rhubella beach.jpgRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 2080 preppieditsRhubella.jpg 16:10, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Advise from UnMeta

How can we nominate representatives to the server or let us edit?

Attention: Due to problems presented on our servers and make it impossible to predict when we are with our wikis to its state before the current crisis. Request the suspension of this requirement until the voting day August 1 Rhubella beach.jpgRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 2080 preppieditsRhubella.jpg 15:09, 18 July 2011 (UTC) (Under IP)

[edit] Reopening the forum

Well after many server problems, we can again discuss the Desciclopédia's representation in UnMeta here. I noticed that a few days in the same concern local forum with this issue and go for apoveitando, translated, some passages of interest to this forum.

On the proposal of Tyler

"Election of two new bureaucrats, but with different functions. [...] and the other will focus more on our relationship with other Wikis and Carlb."

~ [[User:Tyler Durden{{{3}}}]]
Reviews Alhazred
August, 7th

"Part of maintaining relationships with others and with the uncyclos and Carlb necessarily be done by a bureaucrat. This is a function such that I realize in some way already, and I could make it official if anyone see the problem."

~ [[User:Alhazred{{{3}}}]]
August, 8th

"Alz and True, but we formalize this. Even with the Agome talking on msn, she was also willing to work in the "embassy"."

~ [[User:Tyler Durden{{{3}}}]]

"Yes I am interested in working at the embassy here on Desciclopédia, [...] I always enter into dialogue with users of various uncyclos and I have some ideas of integration that can help Desciclopedia."

~ [[User:Alhazred{{{3}}}]]

For what happened here, so far only accepted indication Trewww sysop though he thinks about working here as emabaixador. Alz out in Desciclopédia is the sysop Romanian and Swedish uncys, this after my voluntary departure. I do not think it is an impediment laboring here. However, their proposal differs in that we are presenting. My question is if there is someone in the community would accept the post of sysop here without problems. Rhubella beach.jpgRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 2080 preppieditsRhubella.jpg 16:23, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

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