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Hello, I came to make a complaint about user Rhubella Marie. Minutes ago the IP (contribs) whrite a Message extremely offensive against MarceloRenard/Rhubela Marie as seen in this link:

The translation for English is:

  • For speaking the truth Renald you should die for all the shit that you did in your life, you gay, emo, son of the bitch, you are shit. Your desgalipadia is a compared shit our desciclo. I wait one day you to see with a shot in the head xploding in the ground. your worm.

But if you guys check the contribuitions of this IP issues to be proven that the same IP has edited this:

00:43, 26 August 2010 (diff | hist) Forum:The Brazilian Pact ‎ (→Discussion: Alterações mínimas desculpe era o meu IP ass:Rhubella Marie) (Sorry, thats was my IP sign:Rhubella Marie)

Himself user Rhubella Marie passed by a user of the aonther Wiki to cause more intrigue in a forum where everyone is in search of peace.

Stake Black 21:35, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

In fact, same banished of Desciclopédia, the user's Rhubella Marie same ip continues to Defraud Bans, what is wandered:

Stake Black 21:37, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

The same user have banned Jonny Screamer from uncommons without a motive. Duque SLBENFICAdiscussão 21:42, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I see it, but I said nothing to not cause intrigue, really Renard... Just to cause intrigue. Mgs (talkthings to revert) 22:09, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Did you mean: "... without a rason" or "without a motivation", SLB! :D

I'm very desapointed with Rubella Marie if this is actually what it looks. I strongly want to have a reason to ask for a reversion or reduction of his (her) permaban on Desciclopédia, but now it looks far and far. Let we wait for a Marie's response. Franklin Kerber 1-800 TALK♪♫♪♪♫Vandalism 02:21, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure she'll ignore this accusation, she/he are in hospital ¬¬ Mgs (talkthings to revert) 02:43, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
He asked me by mail to be banned on all projects he's active on. He doesn't want to have to with UnMeta projects anymore, because he feels bullied by some users. I won't ban him, despite his wish. I'll desysop him on UnMeta ONLY, but he can ask his admin status back in any time (maybe he'll regret it). And in my opinion this is getting silly: I wanted to start up a forsoning forum, but this clearly fails (I actually wasted my time). I want now that everyone of you thinks deeply about this | CartoonistHenning 11:31, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Cartoonist, he felt intimidated by what? Because the forun is about the user MGS and Rhubbella willingly and without cause began to attack people, getting to the point of self offense trying to incriminate others. And you still see him as a victim? Why not give it every once in Unmet bureaucracy and expels all the Desciclopedians here? Because obviously you're partial to the point of not even call what he does? He tried to manipulate a forum, offends a user and you still protected? Unfortunate position.I'm tired to see Desciclopedians being treated like criminals in unmeta. Duque SLBENFICAdiscussão 13:53, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Cartoonist, Rhubella tried to manipulate a forum, and still inocent? Why? Stake Black 14:43, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

De qualquer modo, quaisquer ações na UnMeta devem ter consequências apenas na UnMeta. O desysop é bem apropriado, mas baní-lo na Desgalipédia (por exemplo) seria impróprio, assim como banir Jonny no UnCommons por ações na Desciclopédia foi bem arbitrário (e por isso Rubella reviu sua posição, imagino). Franklin Kerber 1-800 TALK♪♫♪♪♫Vandalism 18:12, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't say he's innocent. But I think he has experienced too much the last time, so therefore I desysoped him. To protect himself against other mistakes (by himself) and heated discussions. But I still don't see why I should permaban him. Firstly, he has done many good things here, secondly it would be a real fizzle if this ended up in a permaban. And Slbenfica, we don't see you as criminals here. The real criminals are over there (but that's another story). In my opinion the truth is somewhere in the middle, I don't follow blindly opinions of others | CartoonistHenning 18:38, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Cartoonist, no one wants permaban on Renard, will be too much and he was a very good editor here. But him should be banisehd for a period and lost his sysop tolls for that ting he has done, faking to be another person and call JonnyScreme "son of the bitch". I think You should not return the sysop tools when he asks, therefore being a good user, he is wrong now and should exist consequences for that. Stake Black 23:04, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Se Rubella queria um permaban e um desysop em todos os projetos que participa, ele poderia fazer isso sozinho. Primeiro aplicando o ban, depois resignando. Então creio que, embora ele tenha dito isso, ele não deseja isso realmente. O desysop foi adequado e ao meu ver o suficiente. Um "resysop" deveria (deverá) ser decidito por uma votação, como de costume, segundo meu entendimento. Não há um lusófono que tenha feito pela UnMeta o que Rubella fez, ao menos recentemente. O mesmo vale para outros projetos dos quais ele participa e é isso, ao meu ver, que lhe vale um voto de confiança, ao menos dessa vez. Franklin Kerber 1-800 TALK♪♫♪♪♫Vandalism 01:59, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Por voto de confiança quero dizer não ser banido. Um detalhe sobre Renard/Rubella que me parece evidente é que ele é um tanto quanto impulsivo, e isso acaba causando-lhe diversos problemas. Foi assim quando ele decidiu deliberadamente quebrar as regras na Desciclopédia, foi assim agora. Excluindo isso, ele me parece uma pessoa dedicada e interessada no cresicmento do projeto como um todo. Franklin Kerber 1-800 TALK♪♫♪♪♫Vandalism 02:02, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Eu nem sei quem é essa Rhubella/Renard, só que esses dias que vim até aqui por questões diplomáticas me mostraram que é um usuário impulsivo demais, péssima postura pra um usuário que consegue manter uma wiki sozinho. No outro fórum, vi que ele diz que jamais poderá voltar por causa da votação para burocrata que está ocorrendo, o que eu acho ridículo, pois todos sabem que existem apenas 3 wikis onde o burocrata é dono e manda e desmanda, que são a wiki do próprio Renard, a Malucopédia e a do MGS. No restante, tudo é decidido democraticamente. Cartoonist, I think the permaban is due to the attitude of disrespect Rhubella to other users, which can be shown here in the forums. About the place where you said to have the real villains, I sincerely believe you. Duque SLBENFICAdiscussão 15:48, 29 August 2010 (UTC)